Dr. Anya Yushchenko: Using animal communication as a tool to unlock the secrets to chronic and acute illnesses | E27

[00:00:00] So one area where I use it a lot, the animal communication is end of life transition because

[00:00:06] I find it's really important to let people know what the animal is actually thinking

[00:00:10] about whether it's time to go or not.

[00:00:13] So a lot of people suffer with that decision making, okay, when is it time to go?

[00:00:18] And there's a huge pressure in this country too and the life when it becomes at all uncomfortable.

[00:00:24] They're not used to being around old and sick and dying.

[00:00:29] It's kind of hidden from society.

[00:00:31] It's considered cruel to let you have die in natural death if they are debilitated.

[00:00:38] However, whenever I tune into animal that the owner is considering to put down, none of them

[00:00:44] are willing to die.

[00:00:46] And I've seen, you know, there will be sick animals that by the western standards would

[00:00:52] be considered like very good candy that free is the nation, you know.

[00:00:55] Maybe they can get up or they cannot eat or maybe they have ongoing illness and makes them suffer.

[00:01:02] However, they still want to take that next breath.

[00:01:14] Welcome to The Pet Care Report Podcast by Pet Summits.

[00:01:18] Here's your natural cat healthcare host, Dr. Megan Barrett.

[00:01:22] Welcome back everybody.

[00:01:24] Thanks for joining us once again.

[00:01:27] Today we have a very special guest, Dr. Yushinka.

[00:01:30] She is a veterinarian with a lifelong passion for animals and medicine

[00:01:34] who has always embraced home diets and natural remedies for pets.

[00:01:38] She quickly transitioned to holistic veterinary practice after moving to Canada and becoming

[00:01:43] recertified in 2007.

[00:01:45] Currently based in Hawaii, Dr. Yushinka runs her veterinary practice,

[00:01:51] Path of Bliss Hawaii, offering holistic consultations, herbal and homeopathic treatments

[00:01:57] and animal communication.

[00:01:58] So welcome, Dr. Firth.

[00:02:00] Thank you so much for joining me today.

[00:02:02] Mahala, thank you Megan for having me.

[00:02:04] Yeah, definitely.

[00:02:04] It's very exciting to have another vet from Hawaii on the show.

[00:02:07] It feels like you're close.

[00:02:08] It feels like we're at home, right?

[00:02:11] Yeah, definitely.

[00:02:13] Okay so we will be talking about some different topics today but the main one will be animal

[00:02:19] communication since that is one of Dr. Yushinka's expertise, builds of expertise.

[00:02:26] Before we get started with that though, I do just want to ask you about if you have cats

[00:02:32] of your own and how you support them with a holistic lifestyle.

[00:02:37] I do have two cats which we adore and we got them completely by surprise.

[00:02:41] It's a great story.

[00:02:43] So I was at the beach with my children and there was a lady walking by with a carrier

[00:02:48] and it's covered with a towel and I was like, oh what's in the carrier?

[00:02:51] Now at a time I had a guinea pig and I was looking for a second guinea pig to keep company

[00:02:56] and she said, oh I have kittens so she had this like teeny baby kittens that

[00:03:00] she found on the side of the road, abandoned, you know newborn and she's nursing them

[00:03:04] but she can't keep them and she's like, I don't know what to do with those kittens

[00:03:08] and she said everybody wants kittens but I don't know they're going to take a good care of

[00:03:11] those kittens and I said, I'll take the kittens and we brought them home so we came home with a

[00:03:16] carrier in the kittens that was it and I started right off the, I started right off the bat

[00:03:21] on the raw food diet. They were about you know maybe six weeks old and it's interesting first

[00:03:27] they had like a clans in reaction, you know when I give them the food first time they got

[00:03:31] vomiting and diarrhea and I was like, oh my god that's making them sick but immediately it improved

[00:03:36] and their health's just like blossomed so I've been cooking for them ever since you know I'm really

[00:03:42] laid back about cooking like I don't necessarily follow any ratios of procedures

[00:03:47] and like okay a little bit of meat a little bit of starch a little bit of vegetables this is it

[00:03:52] and so whatever I have at home so when people know that's super simple to cook for your paths

[00:03:59] the same like for you you don't measure the proper ratio every time you eat you know how much

[00:04:03] phosphorus are you getting today, how much calcium you got yesterday, you just eat variety of foods

[00:04:08] so it's the same for your pets just give them variety their body will absorb what it needs

[00:04:14] when I was born in Ukraine we actually didn't have the pet food so I'm like one of this rare people

[00:04:18] that existed without the pet food industry and you know the animals thrive, the animals live the

[00:04:24] long healthy half the lives they're not spated, they're not vaccinated you don't have a flu prevention

[00:04:30] and they're fed you know what's considered a table scraps and they lived into you know 18 years

[00:04:37] old of age you know join problems like very mobile so it's inspirational you know and to see and

[00:04:43] share with people because what I'm seeing North America is epidemic of the chronic disease

[00:04:49] the animals in their seven of eight years old are considered geriatric or old because they're just

[00:04:53] getting so sick so I'm like something we're doing wrong with our pets let's just review you know

[00:04:59] and and maybe do things differently yeah I agree what do you think could be the some of the biggest

[00:05:06] things we're doing wrong to contribute to that epidemic? The food is number one you know I'm a

[00:05:11] big nutritionist advocate for humans like my own health improved when I changed my diet

[00:05:16] and you know it's something you put in your body daily day after day after day and the more I

[00:05:21] learn about the more understand how it works so the body produces oxidative stress when

[00:05:26] it digest the food so the body expects antioxidants to come with food and the main you know one of

[00:05:33] the main flaws of commercial food is like an antioxidants because by the very fact that it's

[00:05:38] processed it's a kibble you know it's a canned food it's dead food you know it's been processed

[00:05:44] under pressure and heat so it doesn't have any antioxidants so you create oxidative stress

[00:05:49] with every meal so no wonder the diseases would be see there are oxidative stress diseases there's

[00:05:55] you know those cancers there's chronic diseases arthritis there's inflammation the skin problems

[00:06:01] the food is number one then definitely over vaccination you know there's a nocesary like even

[00:06:07] you know every three years vaccine is not scientific you know I challenge it every single time when

[00:06:11] the vet still met oh we follow the western science protocol and like wait a minute you know

[00:06:16] there's no sign telling there's need for vaccine every three years and then you know toxic flea

[00:06:21] man on top of that an early spaniarder and you got a cocktail for sickness yeah so what I tell

[00:06:28] people if you follow the standard recommendation I'll feed in commercial foods spaniarder put in the

[00:06:34] flea mats and vaccinate your pet you get sick pets you know like if it was out the way around I'll

[00:06:38] say hey for the medicine but it's not yeah I just sadly if I think if all of those things were

[00:06:44] working the way that they were supposed to be then we would have a lot of sick pets like we do

[00:06:49] exactly the rate of sickness just going up and up and up and up and up yeah it's time to step back

[00:06:55] and say wait a minute something is not working here we're not seeing the health sick pet we're

[00:07:00] supposed to see by using all this methods where told it's gonna work definitely I think it comes from

[00:07:04] a place of we're trying to do the right thing but it's just clearly not working so we're

[00:07:10] trying to return to some of our older ways of doing things and be a little more minimalist and

[00:07:14] natural yes but I think the average return error in there's so busy working day-to-day cases they

[00:07:20] don't even have time to step back and see the whole picture plus the industry is trying really hard

[00:07:25] not to show you the whole picture right it's like you've been ridiculed for questioning things

[00:07:32] you've been you know told that you're not scientific I just recently learned a term

[00:07:36] scientism when the science has been used to promote corporate interests it's no longer science you

[00:07:42] know when you cannot question the status quo there's no longer science and I think so many

[00:07:48] veterinarians are questioning so many listeners are here because things are not working on

[00:07:52] and we got to do a different things yeah absolutely yeah it's hard hard to talk about

[00:07:58] holistic health for cats and not circle right back in the nutrition so I'm glad we got to touch

[00:08:03] on that first so I would love to talk to you about animal communications I know that's one of

[00:08:10] your areas of expertise and it's a very fascinating topic so can you explain how it works as a tool

[00:08:16] for identifying illness and pets and how how you've used it yes you know if someone had told me

[00:08:22] 20 years ago I'm going to be an expert animal communication I want to laugh my head off because

[00:08:28] was raised very critical thinking very much you know and then very physical world you know thanks

[00:08:33] whatever I can touch something that exists yes absolutely you know like my parents you know were

[00:08:39] you know in the communist country you know anything like it all metaphysical was you know

[00:08:45] was out of question and even animal communication was always far and still is it's far off you

[00:08:52] know it's something that's like how did it's like homie apathy you know like you know it works but

[00:08:57] you don't know exactly how it works so when I first heard of animal communication from a friend

[00:09:02] I was sure they get intrigued I was like I'm sure somebody is just telling you stories it kind

[00:09:07] of sound like you know they're believable and they're probably not but she says no like no way for

[00:09:12] that person to know like how my horse you know relates to the horse next to her like it's like no

[00:09:18] and I was like hi interesting like I started getting goosebumps so I'm like wow that's something to it

[00:09:22] and to me it happened completely unexpected so I was working on the dogs about three years ago

[00:09:29] it's very it's very recent actually so I was working on the dog I was doing massage so I was like

[00:09:34] I came to owners house I created put a good music on I was doing this deep healing massage on the dog

[00:09:40] and all of a sudden there's like this images start popping up and I was like oh what is that

[00:09:45] so the image popped up of the dog being a puppy was her mom and the feeling was of the dog missing

[00:09:51] her mom I was like wow that's insidentess came up I was like I never felt anything like that before

[00:09:58] I was like that's interesting um and then the next image and then I found another spot on her body

[00:10:02] was really tense you know with all the sudden that image comes up of um her plane with a big brown

[00:10:09] dog that's a little rough and she scared of the dog so I didn't know what to make out of it because

[00:10:15] I didn't I knew that pet at all so after I finished massage I came to the owner and I said you know

[00:10:23] I don't know what it is but this is what I'm seeing when I was doing massage on the dog

[00:10:28] and she said well you know she was taken away from her mom really early to be trained as a service

[00:10:34] dog so you know it makes perfect sense and she's been transferred homes over and over again

[00:10:39] as a puppy so it makes sense that she might be missing her mom and then the neighbors had the big brown

[00:10:45] dogs that she used to play with as she loved but also was a little scared of because the dog was

[00:10:49] big and strong and I was like wow that's interesting so I kind of had affirmation you know when

[00:10:55] it started happening the owner of firm that I was not making it up or I was being crazy

[00:11:00] and then the second dog that I worked on from the same family she just wanted to talk about food

[00:11:06] you know so I'm like massage in the dog also in this image is a food star popping up

[00:11:10] so there's green beans you know and beef and egg omelette and then vanilla ice cream I'm

[00:11:16] like why there's vanilla ice cream and then um now I feel a little more comforted I'm telling

[00:11:22] the owner hey you know and she says oh she had green beans for breakfast today and she really likes

[00:11:27] beef and on Sunday we make her omelette and she just lifts for it but what about the ice cream

[00:11:32] and the owner says that she used to have an ice cream shop and wikikki and she would feed this

[00:11:39] vanilla ice cream to her dog and the dog still remembers it and she just loves it and I was like

[00:11:44] that's just you know insane you know let's just totally I remember coming to my work and telling

[00:11:51] my colleague and I was like I can hear the dogs now I don't know what's going on I can hear the animals

[00:11:56] and she's like wow that's interesting you know like normal people reactions like oh

[00:12:03] and then um after that I started like um listen in and when I fell it was appropriate sharing with

[00:12:09] the owners and um so I'll tell you my cat story is you know because there's a cat podcast so

[00:12:17] one of the first time remember that strike and information came from the cat um I came to see a cat

[00:12:23] with a upset stomach um the cat is being fed you know home may die this raw food or organic like it's

[00:12:32] good as it gets you know it has also an old kind of herbal supplements super holistic owner I'm like

[00:12:39] you know she should not be in the cat is down like realistic that's vomiting diarrhea really sour

[00:12:45] stomach like pancreatitis case and I and I say that's you know that's unusual given that's such a

[00:12:50] good diet you have for your pet and then I started tuning in now I know how this like I closed my

[00:12:55] eyes and I started scanning the body of a pet um just in my mind I was like do I feel any areas

[00:13:03] of like stagnation it feels like a stagnant energy and I'm like oh there's a lot of stagnation

[00:13:09] in the abdominal area you know I can feel it there's like dark dark space and um I decided to ask

[00:13:16] the owner well how you feeling and um and she says well I'm I feel like I'm about to throw up

[00:13:22] I'll let go of that's interesting uh and that turns out so the owner's boyfriend just recently moved

[00:13:29] back in she doesn't like him she does know how to end the relationship and she's internalizing it

[00:13:35] in her stomach literally making herself sick well the cat is you know it's picking on her energy

[00:13:45] the way it works you know if your feelings seek you animals are gonna start feeling sick

[00:13:49] in a similar ways and I told her what I think it's possible that he's feeling you stress and then

[00:13:55] making him um unwell and um she said immediately she's gonna kick the boyfriend out like the better

[00:14:01] same day she said um she said she couldn't do it for herself but she would do anything for her cat

[00:14:06] so if it's making her cat sick off goes the boyfriend and the cat gets better and she's feeling much

[00:14:11] happier and it was just this little the little inside that help her move in the right direction

[00:14:17] so what I see a lot of the time is animals they just want you to be happy

[00:14:21] so if you're not if you're suffering and you hold him back in some areas um they can manifest it

[00:14:27] like a next level stronger and get sicker just to show you that you need to move on

[00:14:33] so another case I had uh from the big island was over zoom so the lady contacted me

[00:14:39] and she said her cat became aggressive like old son I was superfriend the cat and now

[00:14:46] he's biting her guests so she runs Airbnb she has people come in and all of a sudden her cat is

[00:14:51] just attacking the guests that's where embarrassing and she has that ability and she's like what

[00:14:55] am I gonna do and um I tune in you know ask all the questions what's happening with the cat

[00:15:00] and then um I asked the owner well how are you feeling and she says I feel like I want to bite

[00:15:04] somebody I was like hmm that's very interesting and then uh I was like why is that you know

[00:15:12] and then the she works for um now for the tourist company on the boat as a guide

[00:15:19] and she's over the job and she doesn't like it and there's some conflict

[00:15:23] and she feels but she feels like she cannot quit so she's really angry with the situation you

[00:15:28] know she can't quit and she's suffering how's like well you know possibly your emotions you know

[00:15:35] are getting picked up by the cat so if you're walking around feeling angry so imagine like you live

[00:15:40] in a house with the kids for example you come home angry your kid's gonna start getting agitated

[00:15:45] so if you have a pet you come home angry they're gonna start feeling that energy and start you

[00:15:51] know like having to release it in their own ways so we talked to the owners and she made decision

[00:15:57] just to quit the job in the month because you know what to wait for you know just and the cat

[00:16:03] get better you know the cat just improved you know because there was nothing more to be angry about

[00:16:08] um so this um it's once you start digging into it's it's fascinating to see the connection

[00:16:15] you know and then more more in tune you are the deeper the messages that the cats can tell you

[00:16:20] it's like animals or teachers and they come into your life to teach you a lesson

[00:16:24] they're profound teachers and they're so deeply connected to the spirit to the love and to

[00:16:30] goodness and and they want you to be happy and they don't want you to hold back

[00:16:34] and they don't want you to suffer and then don't want you to be in a relationship you're not happy

[00:16:38] or they don't want you to hold back if you like somebody and you just scare to to get in

[00:16:43] you know they do want you to take to the next level where you are thriving

[00:16:48] so one area where I use it a lot the animal communication is uh end of life transition

[00:16:53] because I find it's really important to let people know what the animal is actually thinking about

[00:16:59] whether it's time to go or not so a lot of people suffer with that decision-making okay when

[00:17:04] is it time to go and there's a huge pressure in this country too and the life when it becomes

[00:17:11] at all uncomfortable we're not used to being around old and sick and dying it's kind of hidden

[00:17:18] in from society it's considered cruel to let you have die and natural death if they are

[00:17:25] debilitated however whenever I tune into animal that the owner is considering to put down

[00:17:32] none of them are willing to die and I've seen you know there will sick animals that you know by

[00:17:39] the western standards would be considered like very good candy that freeuth in Asia you know

[00:17:44] maybe they they can get up or they cannot eat or maybe they have

[00:17:48] ongoing illness that makes them suffer however they still want to take that next breath

[00:17:55] if they can take the next breath they would rather do it than die it's it's um so I want to give

[00:18:00] that permission to the people that want to go ahead and let they pet you know complete their

[00:18:05] journey naturally to tell them that's okay they're not being cruel and um if they feel conflicted

[00:18:11] about euthanasia it's probably because it doesn't feel right internally you know if you get to

[00:18:17] the point where it feels like a good decision it's probably is if it doesn't feel like a good decision

[00:18:23] probably isn't so um just discard anybody else's opinion about how things should be done

[00:18:29] and just trust yourself I've had owners that went through the whole journey with a pet like not

[00:18:34] eating for a whole month and dying you know like in their hands looking in their eyes it was extremely

[00:18:40] profound beautiful spiritual experience and it would not have been that way if the dog would just

[00:18:45] put down you know I would be like a quicker transition against the animals well like I do believe

[00:18:51] they have a right to complete their journey on their own one time I had a case when I was cold for

[00:18:57] the health school euthanasia for a cat that was a 17 year old cat and massated just skin and

[00:19:03] bones seizurean um and it's recently broke his leg you know had the violent seizure hit the steps

[00:19:10] you know has his broken leg the owner says okay maybe you know it's time for euthanasia

[00:19:15] common and it gets it's purin the cat is just purin purin purin and like rubbing me and like

[00:19:21] showing me so much how he wants to live that I told them well I cannot put that down he wants to live

[00:19:28] and now and I didn't it and I told her how to do the pain management and seizure control and how

[00:19:34] to stabilize the leg and she called me a few months later and said hey he's doing better she's so glad

[00:19:39] she didn't put him down she actually starts feeling better um so this end of life transition you know

[00:19:45] having somebody they can tune in with your pad is very helpful because it's such a or having

[00:19:50] the supportive attorney and they can guide your step-by-step so that process is very very helpful

[00:19:56] yeah definitely yeah I think when I was a kid I always thought if I had a superpower I'd want it to

[00:20:03] be animal communication because you know now it would make my job so much easier to be able to just

[00:20:09] ask them how they feel or you know where does it hurt well we all have that capacity you know

[00:20:14] we adjust the ability it's like it's like it's like it's learning how to ride the bike you just get

[00:20:20] so the key is you have to be still enough to hear that so the first is stillness so if somebody wants

[00:20:28] to start learning it I would say start meditating and calm in your mind and then stay in calm in

[00:20:37] the presence of the animal so once you calm enough you you're inevitably going to start picking up

[00:20:43] those informations and the second step is believing so if you hear something don't know how to explain

[00:20:50] start writing it down and start carefully asking the owners or seeing yourself in your workup if

[00:20:56] it actually adds up so that and the more you practice is the more confident you're going to get

[00:21:04] I just recently found out there's actually the technique that teaches you to be a psychic I was

[00:21:10] you know I thought it just like spontaneously happened to people but there was this man named Jose

[00:21:16] Silva that developed the mind control methods maybe you've heard of it it's on a mind valley so

[00:21:25] it's a method of putting yourself in a meditative state through the body relaxation where

[00:21:31] you're relaxed and not that you access in this like subconscious states of mind in which you're

[00:21:37] seeing those you know in which you develop in the psychic abilities you start seeing we just

[00:21:44] like brains so he trained thousands of people the way you know they worked you know with the person

[00:21:50] put their the trainees into this relaxed state and then they tell them the name and the age of

[00:21:55] the person and where they live and the person you know starts to describe in you know the physical

[00:22:01] conditions so it's possible it's trainable it would imagine how easy the diagnostics are right when

[00:22:09] the pet comes in you just scan in your brain say aha I'm gonna look there there's where the problem is

[00:22:15] so I had a patient that came in and I felt the belly and I felt they liver was enlarged

[00:22:21] I'm like the liver does not feel right you know and they send him for x-rays and they're ready

[00:22:27] only just so nothing wrong with the liver just a little enlarged put him on the you know milk

[00:22:32] vessel and it comes back and it's starting to worsen and I tune in do the communication with

[00:22:37] the pattern she says I have a tumor I have a tumor I have a tumor you know tumor in my liver

[00:22:41] you know there's a tumor in my liver and I and I send him back and I say we've got a

[00:22:44] little truss sound you know this there's a problem there and the little truss sound is a massive

[00:22:48] tumor in the liver that got you know like just overlooked and then you know that help us to narrow

[00:22:55] things down so we're not struggling to figure out what's going on you know that was just very clear

[00:23:01] you know that I know there's some human doctors that have the capacity you know they or mediums

[00:23:07] you know they can pinpoint or the problem is so you can start looking so rather than just shooting

[00:23:12] you know in the dark and having like the way we train western medicine can be basin that and

[00:23:18] that and that and that and that and that rather than using intuition no I think it's that yeah I

[00:23:22] think we've become so reliant on that whereas before we had all these medical diagnostics has

[00:23:28] yeah that's what healers had to do is be intuitive and you know how did they do any veterinary

[00:23:33] medicine before the 21st century before we had lab work and ultrasounds they had to do more

[00:23:40] intuitive and observational diagnostic work and it's funny it's almost happened by an necessity

[00:23:46] was maybe because so I'm here in this rural Kauai you know pretty much the village and in my office

[00:23:53] I just have a centrifuge and I work with a lab on the mainland so I don't have extra ultrasound

[00:23:58] so it became like I had to work in those like all time healers like all I have is my hands

[00:24:04] and the owners come in um sometime they say well I can't afford the x-ray and ultrasound

[00:24:09] and the bigger hospital I just have this money for an appointment it's helping with what you got

[00:24:13] so I have to figure stuff out just with this minimum just with observation but I spend time with

[00:24:19] the patients um for example it was my own son I went to the hospital recently and um they don't

[00:24:25] even do an exam you know like I go you know I go and exam room they ask me questions

[00:24:29] they write me a prescription they don't even touch the patients you know I spend my time

[00:24:35] yeah you might see the doctor for five minutes seeing for five minutes you're just like a

[00:24:39] number you know it's like oh this is a symptom there's a drug off you go um you know

[00:24:45] there's so much is missed you know and that's how the modern veteran medicine is set up

[00:24:51] you know so I'm interviewing now for clinics on the wall and um they tell me all the appointments

[00:24:56] 15 minutes it's in and out for vaccines I'm like wait a minute I I spend an hour in each case you

[00:25:02] know because I want to get to know the patient I want to know what's happening I want to know

[00:25:06] what the cause of the sickness rather than just being on the treadmill of dispensing medicine

[00:25:12] you know which is really profitable however it doesn't benefit our patients do you ever do work

[00:25:17] with the pendulum for communication not not for the patients you know for myself I do

[00:25:23] uh and um it's a double-aged sword the pendulum because what the pendulum does

[00:25:29] it will um it will tell you what you feel it is in a moment so whatever you think subconsciously

[00:25:35] is the right answer it will tell you that but doesn't mean it is necessarily is the right answer

[00:25:41] it will just respond to your own field so I've had it like I feel good about this this

[00:25:46] minute it will spin it yes and the next minute I feel bad about it will spin no it just reflects

[00:25:51] your field so don't think it has like an outside power is beside yourself like it just reflects

[00:25:56] so what do you think yeah when I was a kid too um we had a animal communicator come to our farm

[00:26:04] um and he worked on all the horses his name was Bill Northern he was like this older guy from

[00:26:10] I think New Zealand and he kind of was like had this wizard vibe about him and he worked with the

[00:26:16] pendulum and I know he's done that the defining and you know he he's a very like a master animal

[00:26:23] communicator he could help people find their pets from a distance they got lost and he could tell

[00:26:29] them you know where to find them so that was my first exposure to an animal communicator and

[00:26:34] I think what he told me when he worked with me and my horse was that I was too intense

[00:26:40] and my horse wanted me to be less intense in working with him and um I remember it changing our

[00:26:45] relationship because you know I treated him with a little bit more you know gentleness after that

[00:26:51] and um he's still you know around now he's 26 years old and I think it was a big part of that

[00:26:57] just having that small amount of feedback that just comes from the heart of the animal so

[00:27:03] those things can be really valuable oh that's it it can change people lives like literally

[00:27:08] can change people lives you know yeah as you said just that small feedback right um I had a case

[00:27:13] when I came to the owner again for the end of life and um she dug a grave for her dog

[00:27:18] already so I'm coming see the dog and she dug a grave and I see the dog and I start talking

[00:27:24] to the dog and the dog is nowhere near one end to die like the dog says she wants to go to Europe

[00:27:30] she wants to go to California she wants to you know the owner changed her job and like finding

[00:27:35] new house like she's and what turns out like the owner buried her like like like figurely buried

[00:27:43] herself in that grave with her dog she kind of given up on her life you know she felt like there was

[00:27:48] nothing left for her things are not working out you know and she gave up on her dog and herself

[00:27:53] and after that session she just came out and she just laid out in her drive like spread out

[00:27:59] on the ground and she said I feel free and now she tells everybody after she sees the vet her life

[00:28:04] you know is much better you know it's like it's like it can give that inspiration it's like hey you

[00:28:10] can be you know you can live a happy life you can't you know you can do good things you matter early

[00:28:16] it's just in another way the animals can be our therapy therapy helpers and guides

[00:28:22] yeah so if you look deeper there's so much there's so much to it and they can go in the details

[00:28:28] you know how the animals tell me it's like oh you should go see this grandma but not diagram

[00:28:33] ma you should you should be in the city because that feeds you or you should be more remote because

[00:28:38] you better in the jungle it's like they know exactly you know what's going on and it's like

[00:28:42] that person is not good for you that's good for you or we should be moving in your country

[00:28:46] or we should be staying here it's like they have very precise ideas about what needs to happen

[00:28:52] and what's the best thing is and we do too but we just don't trust it or we don't believe

[00:28:56] that would deserve happiness you know we're just hold back while they don't hold back they're like

[00:29:00] that feels good let's just do yeah so they're like our family members so they know as

[00:29:05] just as well as we know ourselves or maybe even better I feel like they you know I just recently

[00:29:09] had this realization the animals are even closer to us than family members because they are us

[00:29:16] you know our pet is part of it like it's something we perceive as part of ourselves you know

[00:29:21] they're so close to us you know with family members it's a different person that can be really

[00:29:25] close to you but still you know it's a different person while your pet is just you you know it's

[00:29:28] just like this part of you that you want to cuddle and love and you know it gives you that unconditional

[00:29:34] acceptance you know they don't care if your hair is not made or if you lost your job you know they

[00:29:38] just love you as it is yeah that's that's the best part and one thing I want to it's going to be my

[00:29:45] takeaway message is I want to release a feeling of guilt from pet parents so there's one thing you

[00:29:54] know I can tell the pet parents is like please you know don't feel like you need to feel guilty but

[00:30:00] not being enough for your pet not doing enough for them or you know putting them down to early or

[00:30:06] not feeling them the best food that the guilt is it's not something that your parents your pet is

[00:30:12] experiencing you know they don't feel any anger or expectation towards you you know not

[00:30:21] being 100% perfect 100% of the time you're just doing your best you know just drop it I feel like

[00:30:27] the best pet owners feeling the most guilt you know the more they try the more they feel like

[00:30:33] they're not enough they're trying the best supplements the best food and the acupuncture and this

[00:30:37] and they still feel like I'm not enough I'm not doing enough for my pet that's not how your pet feels

[00:30:44] they feel like you're enough you know and ironically what I find you know if the

[00:30:50] the owners are laid back they might not even be feeding you know the perfect food to their

[00:30:56] pets or they might not be you know following the perfect schedule they tend to be healthier you know

[00:31:03] if there's a relaxed feeling you know in the house your parent is going to be that much happier so

[00:31:09] follow your own happiness you know you matter your your happiness matters if you want your pet to be

[00:31:15] healthy focus on things that make you happy and healthy and they will reflect that so don't neglect

[00:31:22] your needs because you're so focused on making everything right for your pet but do something for

[00:31:27] yourself you know go for massage you know go for acupuncture make yourself that extra meal

[00:31:32] and then the pet says oh hi feels so good in the house I'm like you know my mom or my dad is taking care

[00:31:37] of themselves so the self-care self-love self-acceptance will help to improve the health of the pets

[00:31:45] yeah I think that's a great tip and so easily forgotten when we're obsessing about

[00:31:51] yeah the obsession was details and perfection you know it's permeating you know it's kind

[00:31:59] of infiltrating the best intentions you want to do the best but yet so cared away that you forgot

[00:32:05] they used you know what the end result you want to feel good and you want to be up to feel good

[00:32:09] yeah and have good quality time with your pets that's all they want I think

[00:32:16] yeah and if you're feeling happy you can hide anything from your pet you know if you have an ache

[00:32:22] they're gonna know and they're gonna want to help you and they want to try to take it away from you

[00:32:26] by like absorbing the energy from you they say oh you know I'll take it from you like please don't

[00:32:31] suffer please don't suffer so address your own suffering for the benefit of your pets health yeah if

[00:32:38] you don't do it for yourself do it for your pets you said earlier he called that person that's

[00:32:43] making you upset leave the job find a place where you're happy and guess what and your pets illness

[00:32:48] is my disappear yeah I like that well thank you again for your time so work on our audience learn

[00:32:55] more from you for like your website or social media well the best place to stay in touch is my

[00:33:00] Instagram that's one of the most active so it's at pass obli's Hawaii and you can send me messages

[00:33:07] with questions my website is reflecting most of my hands on practice here in kawaii I'm in the

[00:33:13] process of updating it to show more of that spiritual part of my work that I'm just tend to gravitate

[00:33:19] to so it's www at www pass obli's Hawaii dot com I just recently started YouTube channel

[00:33:29] it's at pass obli's Hawaii for pets so I'm about to add more videos I want to talk about more

[00:33:35] animal communication and animal transition you know this more spiritual aspects of having pets

[00:33:41] as well as you know more practical ones like holistic vaccine protocols or nutrition

[00:33:46] so just stay tuned and hopefully there's going to be more more to come yeah absolutely

[00:33:53] and we'll have all the links to her sites at the bottom of the episode depending on

[00:33:57] where you're listening so check that out but yeah this once again thank you so much for your time

[00:34:01] in your insight this is such a great episode and I learned a lot and I hope everyone else did too

[00:34:07] mahala it's been a pleasure yeah thanks for having me and I'm so glad to share the inspiration

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